diff --git a/kong/plugins/rate-limiting/schema.lua b/kong/plugins/rate-limiting/schema.lua
index 3d0ca479ec5..cf4a5e390a5 100644
--- a/kong/plugins/rate-limiting/schema.lua
+++ b/kong/plugins/rate-limiting/schema.lua
@@ -115,7 +115,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = { 'redis', 'port' } } },
               message = "rate-limiting: config.redis_port is deprecated, please use config.redis.port instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = 6379, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { port = value } }
             end
@@ -146,7 +147,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = { 'redis', 'ssl' } } },
               message = "rate-limiting: config.redis_ssl is deprecated, please use config.redis.ssl instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = false, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { ssl = value } }
             end
@@ -156,7 +158,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = { 'redis', 'ssl_verify' } } },
               message = "rate-limiting: config.redis_ssl_verify is deprecated, please use config.redis.ssl_verify instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = false, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { ssl_verify = value } }
             end
@@ -176,7 +179,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = { 'redis', 'timeout' } } },
               message = "rate-limiting: config.redis_timeout is deprecated, please use config.redis.timeout instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = 2000, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { timeout = value } }
             end
@@ -186,7 +190,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = { 'redis', 'database' } } },
               message = "rate-limiting: config.redis_database is deprecated, please use config.redis.database instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = 0, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { database = value } }
             end
diff --git a/kong/plugins/response-ratelimiting/schema.lua b/kong/plugins/response-ratelimiting/schema.lua
index 4446298a36a..fe9b7966ef0 100644
--- a/kong/plugins/response-ratelimiting/schema.lua
+++ b/kong/plugins/response-ratelimiting/schema.lua
@@ -154,7 +154,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = {'redis', 'port'} } },
               message = "response-ratelimiting: config.redis_port is deprecated, please use config.redis.port instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = 6379, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { port = value } }
             end
@@ -185,7 +186,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = {'redis', 'ssl'} } },
               message = "response-ratelimiting: config.redis_ssl is deprecated, please use config.redis.ssl instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = false, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { ssl = value } }
             end
@@ -195,7 +197,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = {'redis', 'ssl_verify'} } },
               message = "response-ratelimiting: config.redis_ssl_verify is deprecated, please use config.redis.ssl_verify instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = false, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { ssl_verify = value } }
             end
@@ -215,7 +218,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = {'redis', 'timeout'} } },
               message = "response-ratelimiting: config.redis_timeout is deprecated, please use config.redis.timeout instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = 2000, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { timeout = value } }
             end
@@ -225,7 +229,8 @@ return {
             deprecation = {
               replaced_with = { { path = {'redis', 'database'} } },
               message = "response-ratelimiting: config.redis_database is deprecated, please use config.redis.database instead",
-              removal_in_version = "4.0", },
+              removal_in_version = "4.0",
+              old_default = 0, },
             func = function(value)
               return { redis = { database = value } }
             end